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Lucinda left the computer on. I got up to pee and the living room wasn't dark...it was lit up like the TV was on. The computer screen should have been in sleep mode. It was not.

Instead, there was a full screen message for Windows 10, asking for continuation of the download and upgrading procedure. WHAT THE FUDGE??? I said NO THANKS and it took them quite a while to allow my system to be "restored" to Windows 7. Then I had to look for software to block this hijacking bullshit.

Simple requests to allow them to download the upgrade aren't enough for Microshit anymore. Now they just INVADE your operating system, and if you hit CLOSE, the screen will set up an APPOINTMENT DATE AND TIME...a scheduled time to switch from 7 or 8 to 10...without your knowledge or consent!

You have to REFUSE to click on the AGREE box (for the licensing agreement) and then you won't get hijacked. Barely. But you will still be INFECTED by the new operating system.

I found some free software called GWX Control Panel (for Get Windows X...as in 10...get it? Probably to avoid being sued...) that will monitor your system and block all attempts at Windows 10 upgrade invasions. It changes your computer's settings...or allows you to do so manually...so that this shit doesn't fly.

And it scrubs all the Windows 10 files and screens and notices that Microsoft tries to sneak into your computer.

F'k you, Malwaresoft a-holes. Windows 7 is the best system they ever made and I have had it for six years and I will keep it until I die! Or until they FORCE me to upgrade, either by shutting down 7 or coming in here with badges and guns.

I don't adapt well to change. And UNWANTED and FORCED changes really piss me off. I'd have made a good Southern redneck in 1956.

I'll probably upgrade to Windows 11...maybe in 2025...if AT&T has service for dead geezers in Hell.

Charlie



-- Edited by KidCharlieMane on Tuesday 17th of May 2016 01:11:34 AM

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I've been getting similar crap--notices from MS that it will begin installing Win-10 on my main computer at MS's predetermined date and time.

So far, I've been able to cancel the shit on my main computer, God only knows what I'll find on the lesser computer, since I check it only 3 times a month to run the anti-virus programs.

Bottom line, well, a couple of them--if Win-10 is such hot stuff, and Win-8 was almost immediately replaced by Win-8.1, and why has there never been  a Win-9--OK, y'all catch my drift.

 



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Windows 10 is full of spyware and adware and a lot of bells and whistles and other shit nobody needs or wants, all to "enhance your user experience"...or some such corporate noise.

Fight it, block it, disable it, and keep what you have. Or you'll be very unhappy. Find the free GWX Control Panel website and download their blocking software. Supposedly, it works.

Don't click CLOSE on the Windows 10 notices or it will set up a time to upgrade whether you want it or not. Just refuse to accept their licensing agreement. Then, legally, they have to quit the process and let you keep what you have and like.

Windows 7 is good and it ain't broken, so I don't know why they had to quickly "fix" it with 8 and 8.1...probably greed. Don't know why there was no 9. But 10 is CRAP and I hear 11 is not far away. Now they are really pushing to get as many users onto 10 as they possibly can, either by conning them or by FORCING them into making the change.

They aren't going to get me to switch until I need a new computer in the future. And if I can have 7 installed on it, I will.

There are some changes in this crazy world that I will absolutely not be forced into, if at all possible. This is one of them.

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Actually, I still use Windows XP. My machine is chock a block full of bugs and what have you. This never bothered me because I rather  enjoyed hunting down the bugs and viruses (most of which didn't need much more than resetting Chrome anyway), but now that  Bill Gates has withdrawn his support, I can't fix the browser. So it looks as though I will have to schelpp down to the computer recycle shop and get a brand new second hand computer.

 

 



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I read that the automatic installation of W10 happens because you have automatic updates turned on. Microsoft has designated it as 'recommended' so it happens automatically now.

Charlie, I also am trying to keep my W7 as long as I can.  I also do not deal well with change, never have.  I downloaded W10, tried it and dumped it and have had problems ever since (extreme slowdown in page changing and searching).  I tried to fix it by trying W10 a second time and dumped it again a couple days later.

The reason they want everyone on W10 is because it is designed to run on everything from phones to tablets to desktop machines.  As a result, the design accommodates the so-called lowest common denominator of all computerized devices.  You might have a deluxe desktop machine but you will live with smart phone limitations.

I got a new tablet and it came with W10.  I am trying to get used to it but I absolutely hate it.



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I read that the automatic installation of W10 happens because you have automatic updates turned on. Microsoft has designated it as 'recommended' so it happens automatically now.

The reason they want everyone on W10 is because it is designed to run on everything from phones to tablets to desktop machines.  As a result, the design accommodates the so-called lowest common denominator of all computerized devices.  You might have a deluxe desktop machine but you will live with smart phone limitations.

 


 On my Mac, I have automatic updates turned on, but major updates require me to take action.  With Microsoft auto-updating a major release, there isn't  any chance for a full backup first. Ouch!

Apple also keeps separate versions of the OS between mobile devices and desktops. 

Apple isn't perfect, not by a long shot, but in three years I haven't regretted the switch.  



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I am ashamed to say that I barely understand a word of the preceding posts.

However, I have been to see my computer wallah and once he had sprinkled me with holy water because he thought that anyone who still used Windows XP was unclean and in league with the Anti Christ, he...

sold me a new base unit with Windows 7 installed

told me that Windows 10 was full of bugs and that the best thing to do would be to avoid it until Windows 7 was on its last legs, by which time everything might well be sorted out

said that Norton and Mcfee were more trouble than they were  worth and to just use SpyBot to get rid of Malware.

inserted some sort of ad pop up blocking program, which is a bit of a shame because I rather like ads

charged me £99 (about $140)

I shall now attempt the change over..



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Windows XP is no longer supported by Microshit...so it's now obsolete and prone to all sorts of glitches and viruses, and is almost useless in some machines. They pretty much forced people to stop using it, and that is their Master Plan for users of 7 and 8 and 8.1, I'm afraid.

Like I said, they will not get me to switch by friendly persuasion...they will have to force me to do it and give me no choice. That day has not yet arrived, but I know it eventually will...when this machine finally dies. But we just had it spiffed up last summer, so there's life in the old girl yet.

They almost caught us napping, literally...but I saw the screen in time and stopped their invasion plans in their tracks. The "GWX Control Panel" software that I downloaded (in the wee small hours of the morning) has reconfigured my system and that will keep this bogeyman away. And now the automatic updates are OFF and I will choose, manually, what to download and install from now on. It's a royal pain in the ass...but it will probably keep Windows 10 at bay.

There have been a couple of previous threads here that dealt with this same issue...just put Windows 10 into the search engine and they will come up. I remember when JW had major problems after trying 10 twice...and dumped it twice. But then he had permanent problems afterward and I am damn glad that didn't happen here. Both then and now he said that 10 is a POS and his words have been echoed by techies and geeks all over the intertubes. I hope I can someday get another system with 7 when the time finally comes. Maybe you can in the UK, but I don't know about the Untied Snakes.

I, too, plan to keep 7 until it goes the way of XP and all the previous versions. This Dell came with 7 in 2010...and three years of McAfee for free. That anti-virus software turned out to be total garbage and I dumped it for AVG, which really caused problems and crashes and a lot of hair-tearing, so that soon got dumped...for Norton...again.

Years ago, we'd had Norton for many moons, but it, too, is now total crap, and made this machine almost unusable until we took it to Geek Squad at Best Buy and they cleaned it out for a few hundred bucks...and also installed Webroot, which has kept us pretty well virus-free for almost a year.

Back in the dinosaur era I had some kind of good ad blocker but I don't remember what it was called. I guess I have one now, too, because I rarely see any ads...or maybe after 17 years online I have just gotten used to the ones I do see and ignore them. I either have the pop-ups blocked or they have gone the way of the caboose and the pay phone and toilet paper tubes...because I no longer see them.

God, what a hassle all this is. Like I need any more of them in my geezerhood. Some days, with my problem knees and back, I need a cane just to get up from the couch and walk over to the computer desk.

Charlie



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I had he same thing happen some time in the night. Ed was on the computer after he got home from working 4-11 shift and accidently left the computer on and voila the beast Windows 10 was downloaded when I turned on the computer this morning there was a big powder blue box on my screen. Eek!

Thank goodness Ed was able to get it off the computer and returned it to windows 8.1. Still its very slow. He is going to take another look at it tomorrow and see if he can find the bugs you spoke of. Thank you   so much Charlie for mentioning down loading GWX Control Panel to get rid of the sludge, bugs and Trolls.smile I will pass it on to Ed.  I am so glad you found your computer in time trying to continue downloading  Windows 10. I am like you and others here I do not like change and I have heard nothing but trouble with Windows 10.

Microsoft is worst than a Troll!!blankstareevileye 

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Did it finish downloading? That meant it was probably already too late. But you were able to restore it to the old system? So was I.

Unfortunately, you may have actually had the whole thing installed automatically--and then suffered the after-effects...mainly the slowness.

I think I caught it in time, but it took a while to get Windows 7 back and restarted...I had to refuse to "accept" or "agree" to their licensing, so that stopped the process and got rid of the horrible blue screen with the Windows logo on it. Then I had to reboot several times. Finally I cut off the power and turned it back on before the old screen would come up and "restore" my system. Pissed me off!

There have been many reports of trouble with Windows 10...extreme slowness and search problems and loss of programs and features. Few people seem to like it. Most seem to hate it.

I searched for "How to stop Windows 10 from downloading automatically" and found lotsa links. On one techie geek site, I read about the "GWX Control Panel" program...and installed it.

After tweaking all its various settings and buttons, I was able to change my computer settings. I also got rid of the Windows 10 files that were sneakily installed.

So my machine is clean! Hope it works for you like it worked for me...good luck!

Charlie



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I get those notices to download W10.  I have W8.1 and I'm happy with it.   I haven't decided what to do yet.  I was going to the techie store and ask for advice, because I checked and what I have on here re memory, etc. isn't quite enough to take the W10 anyway.  The notices don't tell you what you need to be able to run this programme.  So....I was wondering if it transpired that a download became engaged, would my computer - as it is set up - accept the W10 or not.  That's what I was going to ask the techies who set this system up for me.

I'm just fine with WIN8.1  I don't think I do enough to warrant any change.  However, anybody who buys a new computer will automatically have W10 installed on it.

Still thinking, and will go to the store next week.



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Thanks for the tip about refusing to agree to the licensing deal, Charlie.  I'd never allowed Win-10 to get that far, have always hit the X in the upper right corner or hit Cancel after it started telling me when it was going to install.  Oddly enough, I haven't gotten any more messages about it, at least the past few nights.

Also haven't gotten any rubbish about "Don't turn off your computer, installing 49 updates" lately, either.  Where on Win-7 do I find the automatic updates controller?

em-jay, every time I've gotten the offer, it's assured me my computer is capable of handling Win-10, and my rig is probably older than yours.

I probably had Vista sometime after Win-98, can't remember.  I really liked XP and then Win-7, the latter of which I'll stick with until Bill Gates yanks away the support for it.  I'm not the least bit interested in an operating system that coordinates all sorts of portable devices.  When I want to be online, I want to sit at my desk in front of a big screen, period.  Crap, I still haven't activated my call-receiving feature on the new cell phone, don't want anyone calling me on it.  I use it only for out-going calls so I can sit wherever I want.

Dee, Eddie's muttered more than once about our next computers being Macs.  Even the guys at the computer repair shop recommend them.  "It's all any of us use," owner Troy once said, "but if everyone had Macs, we'd be out of the repair business."  Problem is, there aren't any Mac stores close by.  I suppose we could order one and have them set it up for us.  How difficult was it for you to learn the new system?

 



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KittyBiggerstaff wrote:

Dee, Eddie's muttered more than once about our next computers being Macs.  Even the guys at the computer repair shop recommend them.  "It's all any of us use," owner Troy once said, "but if everyone had Macs, we'd be out of the repair business."  Problem is, there aren't any Mac stores close by.  I suppose we could order one and have them set it up for us.  How difficult was it for you to learn the new system?

 


 First, I will warn you, Mac's don't come cheap. Sadly.

I don't have a desktop, just the MacBook Pro, one of Apple's laptops.  It's overkill for what I do, next time I will get a MacBook Air laptop.  Anyway, I don't use a mouse at all, just the trackpad and it works great. It took a little getting used to. The urge is to tap it for a "click", but really it's more like a touch. It's hard to explain.

My biggest complaint is the "photo prison".  Photos don't exist as a file in a directory typically, at least not when I take the photo from my iPad or iPhone (I totally bought in didn't I?). Instead, the photos go straight to prison. Apple  refers to it as a "Library", but really it's just a prison for photos. They don't fool me!  The only way to access them from a mail app, or any app, or to make them available for upload to say Photobucket,  is to export them first. SO aggravating! Images I download from the web, or transferred from my old computer are free, just not the photos I take from Apple devices.

I wouldn't buy one without trying one out in the store first, not when you're coming from years on a PC.   I did it, but I am at least a little bit techy and enjoy exploring new gadgets to see how they work.  I did have my very non-techy sister get one, and in short order she was doing just fine with it. Of course, I made it easy for her to get to the apps and websites she uses most often, and moved the clutter out of her way.  She's one lucky sister :)  If you're considering a Mac, I hope there's someone who can help you out too.

 

 



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I have been doing some online research about how Windows 10 downloads can wreck one's system even if it is aborted in time. I have gotten a lot of error messages tonight, which say "task image is corrupt or has been tampered with" (yeah, by a Microsoft hijack attempt!), and now my backup capabilities (which used to back up my files every Sunday) cannot be used or operated. All because of this upgrading bullshit.

I am deleting updates and tried tweaking my settings...but it didn't do any good. Christ on a cracker!

There are ways to fix this mess, but you need another computer to be available at the same time, and a good deal of technical know-how, apparently. I thought I had gotten off easily...without any damage. But I was wrong. And I am pissed off! 

Apparently, this same problem (backup functions disabled by attempted Windows 10 upgrades) has been happening to a lot of other people--folks like me who also don't want any part of the hijacking...er...upgrading... of their systems by Microsoft.

They claim that they will support Windows 7 for another four years, but they still are attempting to force people to switch. Every damn day.
What a bunch of arrogant a-holes. Absolute corporate power corrupts absolutely. And corrupts your operating system as well.

Charlie



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I've never in all my 18 years of on-line life, seen Microself, er, Microsoft, so damned determined to have everybody sign onto a new operating system.  When we first went on-line in 1998, the only thing available was Win-95, but we received a free upgrade to Win-98 a few months later without any fuss or hassle, and subsequent upgrades to whatever there's been up until and through Win-7.  Not many folks seemed to be thrilled with Win-8 or Win 8.1, but had little choice if they bought a new computer within the last few years, but those of us who did have learned to live with it reasonably well if we need to.

As someone explained, either in this thread or another, MicroManager wants to simplify its services to deal with tablets, cell phones, and other teensy-screen crappolae, and the hell with us dinosaurs who rely upon desk-top real rigs.

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Well I went to Staples and spoke with a young techie guy there and he looked at the info I had written down about the details concerning this computer.  I bought it from them and had a 30 minute "lesson" on how it operates with the WIN 8.1 when I bought it 2-1/2 years ago.  Apparently I have more than enough of all the doodads required to accept WIN 10.  After I got the blue screen welcoming me to WIN 10, I discovered that you have to click on NEXT to be able to get out of that screen.  Then up pops the "agreement".  Okay, so I wasn't ready, so I clicked "decline" and then up pops a black screen with a whirly circle on it informing me that my previous windows programme is being restored.  Seemed to take forever.  Finally I got back to my start screen and all is back to normal. 

I don't know what to do yet.  My son-in-law went through the download to WIN 10 and says he has no problems.  The download is free until July.  I don't like change either, but I adjusted just fine to this WIN 8.1.  My brother, who prides himself on being pretty computer savvy is still on Windows 7 Premium Edition !

I'm still thinking.

 

 



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  My brother, who prides himself on being pretty computer savvy is still on Windows 7 Premium Edition  


 I have the same system that your brother has, and I like it just fine. So I see no need to change. If it ain't broke, why screw around with it? Too many people have ended up hating Windows 10, and have tried to get their old systems back. Sometimes they do, and sometimes they get a lot of surprises they neither like nor want. A lot of techie folks have said that Windows 7 is far superior to both 8 or 8.1, and especially to 10, which is full of bugs and causes lots of problems. 

So the advice I have heard is to stick with what you have, especially if what you have is Windows 7. That's what was installed on this system when I bought it directly from Dell in 2010. I don't plan to upgrade unless I have no other choice...such as 7 becoming unusable. Or if I end up needing a new computer in the next couple of years. Which I probably will.

I will most likely have to bring my computer into the repair shop (Best Buy's Geek Squad) to have all the hidden Windows 10 files removed.  My system works, but those sneaky hidden files are causing problems. For one thing, I can't back up my files, which could be catastrophic if some major disaster happens. It's like being on a trapeze and working without a net. Or your assistant, Annette.

I still have a couple more months of free tech support from them, after the work they did last August, so I won't be charged anything. But they are slow and busy, and will probably keep my computer for a whole week, the way they did last year. And that was to remove a lot of viruses that crappy Norton didn't catch. This is all Microsoft's fault...and their nefarious and underhanded methods really piss me off.

Charlie



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Microsoft keeps saying the Win-10 downgrade (I refuse to consider it an upgrade) is FREE! through July 29th.  Then what, they're going to try to encourage us to BUY the damned crap? disbelief



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Sneaky Pete ....

And now this......they really are getting in our faces.  I've decided to hang onto my WIN 8.1

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/microsoft-faces-criticism-sneaky-windows-102956029.html



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Sneaky Bill is more like it.

So how many times must we exercise our choice to "decline" before they leave us alone?



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